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Should republicans be required to agree on precisely what changes to the Constitution they want before Ms. Gillard or Dr. Bob Brown propose another referendum?
 
 
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Opinion Polling
 

An opinion poll is a survey of public opinion from a particular sample.

The sample and questions are designed to indicate the opinion of a larger group, for example the nation.
 
 Some general comments on opinion polling and opinion polling in relation to constitutional change follow these initial comments.  

In a nation obsessed at the political and media level in polling, it is worth at this point introducing some cynicism about polling.

The nation’s eminent psephologist, Malcolm Mackerras, once read out a definition handed to him by an ACM supporter.

It went something like this: “An opinion poll consists of the answers of those willing to respond to uninvited questions put without notice on matters on which the respondents have not had the time to consider.”



...from intial polling to the actual vote...



Before we come to our conclusions on polling on a politicians' republic, we should bear in mind that polls taken before a debate on a referendum proposal will normally record  significantly support than during the referndum.

The trend line indicates that support for a vague undefined republic  is at the time of writing,  as a percentage, only in the low forties.

Because the people will have the opportunity to hear both sides, it is likely to fall even further at the actual vote.

This happened in 1999 even with a highly biassed mainline media and a wealthy Yes campign supported by twothirds of the politicians.


 This will be exacerbated by the precise question which must introduce a model. Many hitherto Yes voters opposing the model chosen will then prefer the constiutional monarchy.  

This is the reason why republicans prefer an intial plebiscite or plebiscites. They are even divided on the number of plebiscites.




...15 Conclusions...




At the present time polling and other evidence suggests fifteen  conclusions:

1.     Since the 1999 republic referendum, there has been a long term decline in support for a vague undefined ( politicians’) republic, currently between 39% to 48%;

2.     Polling continues to indicate a bell shaped curve revealing lower support among the young and continuing strong opposition among the aged. In the latest poll, the Morgan Poll in 2011, support for a politicians'  republic among new immigants seems even lower (28%);

3.     Support is strongest among inner city voters  especially middle aged males and supporters of the Greens;

4.     Once a republican  model is announced as the preferred republic, the Condorcet principle espoused by psephologist  Malcolm Mackerras applies and  support falls further ( that is a significant number of republicans always prefer the constitutional monarchy over the opposing model);

5.     Interest in republican change is generally weak. Those who describe themselves as strong supporters were, according to the April  2011 Newpoll, down to 25%. Among the young this was 20%. The contrasting experiences of ACM and the republicans in calling for public demonstrations supports a conclusion that many more monarchists are strong supporters of their cause than republicans.

6.     The latest poll on direct election ( by Morgan polling)  indicates no greater support for this than there is for a vague undefined republic;

7.     As with any other polling, occasionally a "rogue" poll going against the trend will emerge, as with the 2009 UMR poll released at the time of the tenth anniversary of the referendum;

8.     Another referendum on the 1999 model would be overwhelmingly defeated and a referendum on a model involving the direct election of a President would also be defeated ( republican Professor Craven says the defeat would be greater than in 1999);

9.     A referendum delaying change until the end the reign would be defeated overwhelmingly;

10.  If a plebiscite were to be held, it will be weighted in favour of a Yes vote. This will be done carefully designing the question. This will be done by taxpayer funded specialists, aided by substantial taxpayer funding including provision for “education” and “information”, probably little or no public funding for the No case,  possibly no Yes/No booklet, and with strong support from about two thirds of the politicians and  from the mainstream media.

11. Experience indicates that support for the affirmative case falls significantly  between the announcement of a proposal and the actual vote. This is because the voters have then had some opportunity of hearing both sides of the debate.

12. Those who are uncommitted in a poll tend to move to the No case, or in the poll do not reveal an intention to vote No. This is because the republican camp has been successful in suggesting the monarchist case is old fashioned, dated, etc.

13. Polls taken now indicating opinions at some future date, say, the end of the reign, are clearly unreliable.

14. That even if the Prime Minister and Leader of the Opposition were to support the Yes case ina referndum, this will not ensure success, as was demonstrated in 1967. But if there is no No case, i.e. the Parliament unanimously supports the referendum, this can significantly help the Yes case. It may be that the support of an unpopular Prime Minister and/or government  may harm the Yes case. This was said to be one of the reasons why Paul Keating chose not to put a referendum on a republic.

15. The theme of any referendum on a republic will probably be around the proposition that only a politicians’ republic can deliver an Australian Head of State. To counter this, constitutional monarchists will need to be as well organised and as disciplined as they were in 1999.




...general comments on polling...

  


Opinion polls do not claim absolute accuracy and will usually indicate a margin of error. They are not predictions as to the future but an attempt to measure opinion at the time of the poll. This applies to views about what may or may not happen at the end of the reign. These are views held now, not one swhich will emerge at the end of the reign.

There can be errors or a bias in taking the sample. For example a telephone survey excludes those who do not have landlines. Some people will be reluctant to answer, or may give an answer they think the questioner wants.

By looking at trends from different polls taken over time, differences can be neutralised.



...the right question?..




Opinion polls can be biased in formulating questions. This
can be unintentional.

The question may vary considerably from the referendum question. A referendum necessarily involves agreeing to a specific republican model. But some  polls purporting to measure voting attitudes in the 1999 referendum ignored this and tested support for some vague undefined republic.

But in questions concerning constitutional change certain words can mislead.

For example, there is a debate between republicans and constitutional monarchists over the meaning of Head of State, and the question to be answered in the referendum may not even use that word.

 “ Do you think an Australian should be Head of State instead of The Queen ?” assumes we do not already have an Australian Head of State, which is a principal point in issue in the debate.

This is important. In the 1999 referendum, the Yes case used the argument that only in a republic could we have an Australian as Head of State nine times, more than any other.

Even asking whether Australia should become a republic assumes we are not already a republic, albeit a crowned republic


...have they heard both sides? ...



When referendums are announced, it is common to find polling indicates strong public support. But this can change after the public has heard both sides.This was exacerbated in the nineties because the mainstream media supported the republican movement. At the same time the media thrives on conflict and even a biassed media is forced to allow the other side to be heard at least partially.

In the early stages of the campaign in the nineties the public had not really heard both sides of the debate.  They had heard more by the time of the referendum. 





...polling trends...



Isolated polls should be treated with caution. The trend in polling from different pollsters over time is a better indicator. It is particularly unwise to rely on one poll which goes against the trend. 

In 2009 the republicans released a poll to coincide with the tenth anniversary of the referendum. This indicated that 59% support for “a republic.”  This went against all the trends and was what may best be called a “rogue poll”, which, we hasten to add,  suggests no impropriety.



...pollsters...



In Australia the best known pollsters are:
 

  • Newspoll - published in News Limited's The Australian newspaper
  • Roy Morgan Research - published in the Crikey email reporting service
  • Galaxy Polling - published in News Limited's tabloid papers
  • AC Nielsen Polling - published in Fairfax newspapers

Although less well known,  UMR has also conducted polls on this issue. Its polls have always found substantially more republican support than any of the others.

Essential media is a new pollster more associated with the unions, without this resulting in any bias.Its political polling produces results broadly in line with the other polllsters. 

 



2010 Election Study: one finding they should have kept to themselves Print E-mail
Written by ACM   
Friday, 20 May 2011
One of the interesting findings of the recently released 2010 Australian Election Study is that 55.6% of voters had made up their minds up as to how they were definitely going to vote before the election was announced. 

And 14.5% made their mind up only a few days before and 10.3% on election day.

I wish the boffins had kept this one to themselves. Right or wrong, it will only enocurage the parties to inflict more advertisements launches stunts and spin on us. 

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On one model recently proposed by a republican knight,  we will have up to nine more elections every three or so years.   

With even more demands on the taxpayer to fund their campaigns.

The study is a serious academic undertaking and I am sure all manner of clever things are done to weight the answers so that they are representative of the electorate.

My reservation is that the sort of person who is prepared to spend the considerable amount of time necessary to answer a vast number of questions about all manner of things relating to an election is not your average Australian.




...deliberative poll...



 I had the same reservations about the Canberra weekend deliberative poll in Old Parliament House used just before the 1999 republic referendum.


People who are prepared to give up the weekend at their own expense in these activities, however commendable, are not typical Australians.


I would have had the same reservation about the 2020 Summit until it became obvious it had been gerrymandered to obtain a 98:1 vote in favour of rushed resolutions in favour of a republic.

(They were so poorly drafted they had to be surreptitiously changed later.)

Incidentally, in her 2000 book, The People’s Protest , Kerry Jones describes how, unbeknown to the organisers, the ARM managed to infiltrate and undermine the process for the deliberative poll.





...a flawed question...




 The 2010 election study attempted to ask the inevitable question about Australia becoming some sort of vague undefined politicians’ republic. 

It fails in that attempt.


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Support for republic collapses among Labor voters and the young Print E-mail
Written by Professor David Flint AM   
Tuesday, 10 May 2011

Support for a vague undefined politicians’ republic is collapsing in Australia and across the Realms.  This extends to what is commonly thought to be their most popular model, a republic with an elected presidency.


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A reader has just sent us polling from an Australian company, Essential Media Communications.

I understand  they
are  union-backed pollsters and campaigner who undertake market research work and campaigns for NGOs, unions, etc.  Sky TV News occasionally runs their polling.

They seem to have an impressive record, mainly acting for “progressive” causes. Their current political polling is more or less consistent with that of the other pollsters.




...Prince William supported by most, including the young and Labor voters...




 On 2 May  2011, they asked a question the terminology of which favours the republican case. This relates to the use of the term Head of State.  ACM has long argued the Governor-General is Head of State.

The question was:

Under the current arrangements, Prince William will be Australia’s Head of State when he becomes King. Would you approve or disapprove of Prince William as Australia’s Head of State?

Sixty per cent approved.  That is worth repeating.  Sixty per cent approved.

The breakdowns are enlightening: Labor 58%, Liberal/National 69%, Greens 38%, Men 56%, Women, 64% , those aged 18-34  56%, those  aged 35-54 60%, and those aged more than 55 65%.

The high support among Labor voters and the young will worry republicans.

Only 13% disapproved. And apart from the Greens at 30% disapproving, there was little difference between supporters of different parties, the sexes or age groups. 

17% were undecided.

The details are here.




 

 
Republic support collapses - evidence pours in Print E-mail
Written by Professor David Flint AM   
Friday, 06 May 2011

More evidence is coming in indicating support for a politicians' republic is collapsing both here, in New Zealand , and in the UK  including Scotland.

The trend was well established before the Royal Wedding.

A special Morgan Poll taken on the nights of 3 and 4 May 2011 finds that a clear majority of Australians (77%) watched at least part of the Royal Wedding between Prince William and Kate Middleton last week.

The poll finds that support for retaining the monarchy has surged to 55% (up 7% since November 2010 — its highest since July 1991).

In contrast only 34% (down 8% since November 2010) of Australians believe Australia should become a republic with an elected President while 11% (up 1%) are undecided.  

An ACM assessment then further details of the Morgan Poll follow.  

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...ACM's assessment of the Morgan Poll...


There are six points to make on the Morgan Poll.

1.Referendum The 1999 referendum Morgan Poll found 38% favoured the monarchy, 54% a republic and 8% uncommitted.

But in the referendum only 43% voted for the republic. (By ignoring abstentions and informal votes, the Electoral Commission find this was around 45%. ACM has  strong legal advice that the AEC should consider the informal votes.)

The difference between the poll an dthe actual vote is  explained by some combination of the usual margin of error, the fact that most uncommitted voted No and some republicans objecting to the model.

The republican ‘No’ voters, I think, were not as many as some people think.

But I agree with republican Professor Greg Craven that  the republican No voters would be significantly larger if a ‘direct elect ‘ model were put.

Why? Those who object to direct election are far more prominent. They include most politicians and a good part of the media.

2.Likely vote now. We can assume from this 1999 precedent   that the No vote in a referendum taken now would be above 55% and heading towards 66%.

The politicians know this. That is why the Prime Minister has put off action until the end of the reign – when she  will probably will be enjoying her superannuation.

3.The Model. The Morgan Poll asks about a specific model, the one assumed to be the most popular.

4.The Youth Vote. Support for a republic is even lower among young people -31%. Morgan unusually polls people 14 to 17.

This is consistent with the last Morgan Poll. It is also consistent with the “time bomb” ACM has long warned republicans about.   Intensive polling at the time of the referendum - and since - show lower levels of support for a republic among the young.

5.Trends.
The Morgan Poll confirms the trend of falling support over time for a republic. This confirms the ACM assessment that the 2009 UMR poll was  a rogue poll.

6.Labor voters. A majority of Labor voters do not support a republic. This was confirmed in the referendum.




...Morgan Poll summary...

 

The  pollster says that if Prince Charles were to be crowned King, support for the Monarchy drops to 47%, (up 6% since November 2010) only slightly more than the 45% (down 6%) of Australians that would want a Republic with an elected President, while 8% of Australians can’t say.

 

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Support for republic collapses in New Zealand Print E-mail
Written by ACM   
Thursday, 05 May 2011

 The wedding of Prince William and Kate Middleton has had a dramatic impact on approval of the Royal family and whether people expect New Zealand to become a republic, according to a UMR Research poll.

The Australian UMR generally finds higher support for a vague undefined republic than the major Australian pollsters.

The Australian UMR proceeds on the basis of a poll, but does the polling online.
The New Zealand UMR report is ” WEDDING BREATHES LIFE INTO THE MONARCHY EXPECTATIONS THAT NZ WILL BECOME A REPUBLIC FADE AS APPROVAL OF ROYAL FAMILY SURGES

This will dismay not only the small NZ republican movement. It works closely with the Australian and United Kingdom movements, and also a smaller Canadian movement.

As we noted here, the leadership of these four seems to have been assumed -  rather ironically - by the United Kingdom group -see report here, “Colonial Republicanism” 


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....massive turn-around...




The pollster says that  “ Approval of the Royal family has leaped to 74% from the 60% it stood at back in July 2002 when the question was last asked.

 “There has also been a massive turn-around in expectations about whether New Zealand will become a republic in the next 20 years. Back in 2005, a clear majority (58%) expected the country to become one in that time with less than one-third (29%) saying it would not. Today, 52% don’t expect New Zealand to become a republic and only 33% expect it will.

 “Not surprisingly, opposition to New Zealand becoming a republic is stronger than it has been for over decade. Today, only 24% support the country becoming a republic and 58% are opposed with 18% unsure.”

The Australian experience is that especially on this issue the unsure or uncommitted tend to vote No in a referendum. A large number prefer not to reveal their voting intentions.




...large number watched wedding closely...


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Republican annus horribilis Print E-mail
Written by Professor David Flint AM   
Wednesday, 27 April 2011

This has been something of an annus horribilis for the Australian Republican Movement, writes Nick Bryant, the BBC's Australia correspondent. 

This was before the release of the Newspoll on 25 April 2011 showing that support for some vague undefined politicians’ republic had fallen to a seventeen year low, confirming trends evident well before the Royal Wedding.  

Only about 25% are now strongly in favour of a republic.  Among the young this falls to 20%. It has to be stressed that is a vague undefined politicians' republic, not as so often claimed, "the" republic.

 When a specific republican model is announced - as it must be for a referendum - a good number of those 25% strong supporters will indicate a strong preference to stay with the present system.  So will a good number of the young strong supporters which, you will recall, is now down to 20%.

One thing is clear. If another referendum were to be held now, whatever the model,  the national vote would be lower than the 43% then in favour.  No state would be won, and the Yes vote would be concentrated in a number of elite inner city electorates.  

Polls also disclose that those strongly in favour of a republic are concentrated among middle aged males especially in elite inner city electorates.

So is this the end of the republican spectacle, at least to the extenet that anyone takes it seriously ? Is the curtain about to come down?


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Mr. Bryant penned  an opinion piece in the national newspaper, The Australian (18/4), which we referred to recently:  “Republican movement tells the BBC one thing, the ABC and Canberra Times the opposite.”

In my view, almost every year since 1999 must  have been something of an annus horribilis for the republican movement.

 None of their stunts, especially the disastrous Mate for Head of State has made any impact. Even the official 2020 Summit to the extenet that it concentrated on a vague undefined republic was a fiasco.

Well before the Newspoll, support in the  polls had been trending down to a low 40%. 

The admission by Malcolm Turnbull four months before the 1999 referendum applies even more today: nobody is interested.

With almost  two decades of noisy agitation distracting the media and the politicians, is this the end of this phase of republicanism as a serious force in Australia?




...PM abandons republicans...




Mr. Bryant points out that Prime Minister Julia Gillard, the movement’s long-time ally, has now ruled out a referendum on the question while Queen Elizabeth remains on the throne.

As Mr. Bryant would know, this is not out of any tender affection for the Crown. Ms. Gillard knows the polling and focus groups are telling her not to touch this with a barge pole.




...the Greens...



The only hope for the republicans of getting this issue onto the agenda are those of her allies who are “passionate “ about this – the  Greens and the independent member for Lyne in New South Wales Rob Oakshott , whose position is precarious.

Ms. Gillard has already adopted issues to satisfy her allies;  who knows whether some vague politicians’ republic might not be added.



...14 points of republican distress...

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