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Should republicans be required to agree on precisely what changes to the Constitution they want before Ms. Gillard or Dr. Bob Brown propose another referendum?
 
 
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Opinion Polling
 

An opinion poll is a survey of public opinion from a particular sample.

The sample and questions are designed to indicate the opinion of a larger group, for example the nation.
 
 Some general comments on opinion polling and opinion polling in relation to constitutional change follow these initial comments.  

In a nation obsessed at the political and media level in polling, it is worth at this point introducing some cynicism about polling.

The nation’s eminent psephologist, Malcolm Mackerras, once read out a definition handed to him by an ACM supporter.

It went something like this: “An opinion poll consists of the answers of those willing to respond to uninvited questions put without notice on matters on which the respondents have not had the time to consider.”



...from intial polling to the actual vote...



Before we come to our conclusions on polling on a politicians' republic, we should bear in mind that polls taken before a debate on a referendum proposal will normally record  significantly support than during the referndum.

The trend line indicates that support for a vague undefined republic  is at the time of writing,  as a percentage, only in the low forties.

Because the people will have the opportunity to hear both sides, it is likely to fall even further at the actual vote.

This happened in 1999 even with a highly biassed mainline media and a wealthy Yes campign supported by twothirds of the politicians.


 This will be exacerbated by the precise question which must introduce a model. Many hitherto Yes voters opposing the model chosen will then prefer the constiutional monarchy.  

This is the reason why republicans prefer an intial plebiscite or plebiscites. They are even divided on the number of plebiscites.




...15 Conclusions...




At the present time polling and other evidence suggests fifteen  conclusions:

1.     Since the 1999 republic referendum, there has been a long term decline in support for a vague undefined ( politicians’) republic, currently between 39% to 48%;

2.     Polling continues to indicate a bell shaped curve revealing lower support among the young and continuing strong opposition among the aged. In the latest poll, the Morgan Poll in 2011, support for a politicians'  republic among new immigants seems even lower (28%);

3.     Support is strongest among inner city voters  especially middle aged males and supporters of the Greens;

4.     Once a republican  model is announced as the preferred republic, the Condorcet principle espoused by psephologist  Malcolm Mackerras applies and  support falls further ( that is a significant number of republicans always prefer the constitutional monarchy over the opposing model);

5.     Interest in republican change is generally weak. Those who describe themselves as strong supporters were, according to the April  2011 Newpoll, down to 25%. Among the young this was 20%. The contrasting experiences of ACM and the republicans in calling for public demonstrations supports a conclusion that many more monarchists are strong supporters of their cause than republicans.

6.     The latest poll on direct election ( by Morgan polling)  indicates no greater support for this than there is for a vague undefined republic;

7.     As with any other polling, occasionally a "rogue" poll going against the trend will emerge, as with the 2009 UMR poll released at the time of the tenth anniversary of the referendum;

8.     Another referendum on the 1999 model would be overwhelmingly defeated and a referendum on a model involving the direct election of a President would also be defeated ( republican Professor Craven says the defeat would be greater than in 1999);

9.     A referendum delaying change until the end the reign would be defeated overwhelmingly;

10.  If a plebiscite were to be held, it will be weighted in favour of a Yes vote. This will be done carefully designing the question. This will be done by taxpayer funded specialists, aided by substantial taxpayer funding including provision for “education” and “information”, probably little or no public funding for the No case,  possibly no Yes/No booklet, and with strong support from about two thirds of the politicians and  from the mainstream media.

11. Experience indicates that support for the affirmative case falls significantly  between the announcement of a proposal and the actual vote. This is because the voters have then had some opportunity of hearing both sides of the debate.

12. Those who are uncommitted in a poll tend to move to the No case, or in the poll do not reveal an intention to vote No. This is because the republican camp has been successful in suggesting the monarchist case is old fashioned, dated, etc.

13. Polls taken now indicating opinions at some future date, say, the end of the reign, are clearly unreliable.

14. That even if the Prime Minister and Leader of the Opposition were to support the Yes case ina referndum, this will not ensure success, as was demonstrated in 1967. But if there is no No case, i.e. the Parliament unanimously supports the referendum, this can significantly help the Yes case. It may be that the support of an unpopular Prime Minister and/or government  may harm the Yes case. This was said to be one of the reasons why Paul Keating chose not to put a referendum on a republic.

15. The theme of any referendum on a republic will probably be around the proposition that only a politicians’ republic can deliver an Australian Head of State. To counter this, constitutional monarchists will need to be as well organised and as disciplined as they were in 1999.




...general comments on polling...

  


Opinion polls do not claim absolute accuracy and will usually indicate a margin of error. They are not predictions as to the future but an attempt to measure opinion at the time of the poll. This applies to views about what may or may not happen at the end of the reign. These are views held now, not one swhich will emerge at the end of the reign.

There can be errors or a bias in taking the sample. For example a telephone survey excludes those who do not have landlines. Some people will be reluctant to answer, or may give an answer they think the questioner wants.

By looking at trends from different polls taken over time, differences can be neutralised.



...the right question?..




Opinion polls can be biased in formulating questions. This
can be unintentional.

The question may vary considerably from the referendum question. A referendum necessarily involves agreeing to a specific republican model. But some  polls purporting to measure voting attitudes in the 1999 referendum ignored this and tested support for some vague undefined republic.

But in questions concerning constitutional change certain words can mislead.

For example, there is a debate between republicans and constitutional monarchists over the meaning of Head of State, and the question to be answered in the referendum may not even use that word.

 “ Do you think an Australian should be Head of State instead of The Queen ?” assumes we do not already have an Australian Head of State, which is a principal point in issue in the debate.

This is important. In the 1999 referendum, the Yes case used the argument that only in a republic could we have an Australian as Head of State nine times, more than any other.

Even asking whether Australia should become a republic assumes we are not already a republic, albeit a crowned republic


...have they heard both sides? ...



When referendums are announced, it is common to find polling indicates strong public support. But this can change after the public has heard both sides.This was exacerbated in the nineties because the mainstream media supported the republican movement. At the same time the media thrives on conflict and even a biassed media is forced to allow the other side to be heard at least partially.

In the early stages of the campaign in the nineties the public had not really heard both sides of the debate.  They had heard more by the time of the referendum. 





...polling trends...



Isolated polls should be treated with caution. The trend in polling from different pollsters over time is a better indicator. It is particularly unwise to rely on one poll which goes against the trend. 

In 2009 the republicans released a poll to coincide with the tenth anniversary of the referendum. This indicated that 59% support for “a republic.”  This went against all the trends and was what may best be called a “rogue poll”, which, we hasten to add,  suggests no impropriety.



...pollsters...



In Australia the best known pollsters are:
 

  • Newspoll - published in News Limited's The Australian newspaper
  • Roy Morgan Research - published in the Crikey email reporting service
  • Galaxy Polling - published in News Limited's tabloid papers
  • AC Nielsen Polling - published in Fairfax newspapers

Although less well known,  UMR has also conducted polls on this issue. Its polls have always found substantially more republican support than any of the others.

Essential media is a new pollster more associated with the unions, without this resulting in any bias.Its political polling produces results broadly in line with the other polllsters. 

 



Polling today Print E-mail
Written by ACM   
Wednesday, 22 May 2013

Here's how people are voting on constitutional change.

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This photograph was sent to us by Councillor Peter Cavanagh from Canberra's Museum of Australian Democracy.

There are two points to note about the break up of voters. First, in a referendum, pollsters will tell you  the undecided tend to vote no - see the opinion polling section on the ACM site.

Second, based on the 1999 experience, republicans are so divided about the model they prefer our crowned republic to the other model. This fundamental division has been papered over by the ARM - which only indicates that it still rages.

If this group were representative of the Australian electorate , which we do not of course claim, either model would be rejected by  around 80:20.

Whatever the figures, the fact is that the republican politicians know that a referendum would be overwhelmingly rejected, and more than in 1999. Based on opinion polling we would probably win at least 60:40, all states, and probably more than 72% of electorates. We would also win the northern Territory. The republicans would win e ACT - Canberra.

That's why there is so little action on this, apart from Malcolm Turnbull's recent curious outburst. 

 
Republican support falls further Print E-mail
Written by Professor David Flint AM   
Wednesday, 23 January 2013

A new opinion poll, in anticipation of Australia Day, has been undertaken by Galaxy Research for News Ltd, according to a report by Jessica Marzelek on 23 January 2013 in the Herald Sun.

This reveals that even fewer people would vote for a republic if the 1999 referendum were put to them now, with only 33 per cent answering yes.

The report says this compares with 45 per cent who answered yes 13 years ago. 


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Most of the  polls at the time indicated higher support for a republic than the actual vote. This is not a criticism of the polls; it is most likely because people considered that voting in a referendum about changing the basic law of their country was a matter of the utmost seriousness.

 The other factor, specific to the republican referendum, was the major propaganda campaign conducted in and by the media and by most of the politicians which belittled anyone supporting the existing Constitution.

The theme of this campaign was that it was up-to-date and modern to be voting Yes, and only old-fashioned, irrelevant dinosaurs would be voting No.  Clearly both the media and the politicians were completely out of touch with the Australian people who registered a landslide vote against what was clearly described in the Vote No campaign as a politicians’ republic.




...plebiscites...

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Support for republic collapses. Print E-mail
Written by Professor David Flint AM   
Wednesday, 23 January 2013

A new opinion poll, in anticipation of Australia Day, has been undertaken by Galaxy Research for News Ltd, according to a report by Jessica Marzelek on 23 January 2013 in the Herald Sun.

This reveals that even fewer people would vote for a republic if the 1999 referendum were put to them now, with only 33 per cent answering yes.

The report says this compares with 45 per cent who answered yes 13 years ago.





Most of the  polls at the time indicated higher support for a republic than the actual vote. This is not a criticism of the polls; it is most likely because people considered that voting in a referendum about changing the basic law of their country was a matter of the utmost seriousness.

 The other factor, specific to the republican referendum, was the major propaganda campaign conducted in and by the media and by most of the politicians which belittled anyone supporting the existing Constitution.

The theme of this campaign was that it was up-to-date and modern to be voting Yes, and only old-fashioned, irrelevant dinosaurs would be voting No.  Clearly both the media and the politicians were completely out of touch with the Australian people who registered a landslide vote against what was clearly described in the Vote No campaign as a politicians’ republic.




...plebiscites...



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Nauseatingly conservative? Print E-mail
Written by Professor David Flint AM   
Sunday, 20 January 2013

What's wrong with the youth these days, asked Alecia Simmonds in an opinion piece in The Sydney Morning Herald, 19 January 2013.  “Why are they so nauseatingly conservative?”

If opposing the shredding of our flag or the gutting of our Constitution is being conservative, the young people of Australia have long demonstrated that they are more likely to oppose change than, say, the middle-aged,  especially those in the inner city electorates in the Melbourne/ Sydney/ Canberra triangle.

It is a pity some prominent republicans - including politicians -  assume that they have the youth vote in the bag, They don't - and if they did some research before speaking they would save being embarassed. 
 
 
 

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[ Note: For Essential and Galaxy,there are no lines - see post 12 December 2012 ]

...referendum research...



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We are pleased with the polls. Print E-mail
Written by Professor David Flint AM   
Wednesday, 12 December 2012

We have seen three polls this  year on support for constitutional change to a republic , that  is changing our Federal Commonwealth under the Crown to a politicians’ republic.

 According to these, support ranges between Essential Media’s finding of 39%, Morgan Poll’s at 43% and UMR’s at 48%.

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[ Note: For Essential and Galaxy,there are no lines - see the text below]


Opinion polls typically exaggerate support for a referendum. This is not because they are wrong.

First the question in the poll may be different than that in the referendum. Then, people have not heard the debate which precedes the vote. People may not be inclined to reveal their intentions especially if the media has determined that a No vote is unfashionable and worse, wrong. Finally, voting in a referendum is a serious and final act.




..referendum, plebiscite would be defeated...




On these results, a referendum would be overwhelmingly defeated. As would a plebiscite - however much the spin doctors worked on the question.  

While Essential and UMR are about a vague undefined republic, Morgan’s question is about a republic with an elected president, which many assume to be the most popular model.

  I agree with Professor Craven that if this model were put to the people, it would result in a greater defeat than in 1999. This is because most of the republican politicians and many in the media would argue strongly against it.


  

....long term decline in republican support...

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